What stupid rules Lichess uses regarding draws on timeout

@WassimBerbar said in #3:

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> Same here. If the dude had one more pawn, you win, because he also had enough to win theoretically.

Rook-king mate is possible... no problem at all... White could easily win if he had 10 more seconds. Black can't win... Draw makes sense to me.

@JesusIsLord906 said in #1:
> Convince me otherwise :P

It is like a game where you two have guns to shoot each other, but if your time runs out you can't move around anymore.

Your opponent's clock run out of time, and he is frozen still, a sitting duck for you to shoot! It is your chance to win the game, but... alas, you are out of bullets! ;)

I think players should be familiar with the Chess rules before playing.

@JesusIsLord906 You should count yourself lucky that you got a draw out of it. You can’t win on the board but you can still draw on the board. That’s why it becaomes a draw.

@Toadofsky said in #20:
> Please clarify further; I've played tens of thousands of games, and only once have I encountered such a "dead position", which I easily and comfortably drew by repetition; but also if players use an increment clock, all "dead positions" are easily drawn.
I think he is referring to certain grotesque positions.
Like famous Plaskett's puzzle. Still today, Stockfish fails to evaluate it properly and call it Black winning but it is actually White that is winning. There's no forced mate unlike the composer said as it was human mistake cause the composer himself made a mistake as Black king had an escaping square but in the end White would win. But the puzzle was represented as forced win for White.
In the end, top engines fail in analysing the iconic puzzle.

Very funny. You played black and lost the game. White won but had no time to deliver the checkmate, so it's a draw because black has no pieces left.

@Hitsugaya said in #6:
> It's like your opponent has a clock with a bomb attached to it close to him,

or like making an unboxing video, when suddenly there is an alarm clock with a few sticks of dynamite taped to it. And the alarm clock wents off. Very convincing!

this is not just lichess, timeout vs. insufficient material is a draw.

@Spencersucksatchess1 said in #28:
> this is not just lichess, timeout vs. insufficient material is a draw.

So somehow you think material is more important than the person running out of time.

Time is the end all be all.

I feel once the clock runs dry even if you can't mate them, it should be over, because it is a skill innit of itself to run an opponents clock down to 0 before he mates you no matter how you do it!

To say no material vs no time is a draw is basically saying the clock doesn't matter if there isn't mating material left, basically cheating the dude who worked hard to get the enemies clock to nothing and staying alive.

Perhaps they should open a variation where if the clock dies you die no matter what, that makes much more sense to me.

@JesusIsLord906 said in #29:
> I feel once the clock runs dry even if you can't mate them, it should be over, because it is a skill innit of itself to run an opponents clock down to 0 before he mates you no matter how you do it!

You are missing the point: what YOU feel, what other users in this thread feel, what I feel, that is not important, unless you are a sitting vote in a FIDE conference to change chess rules. This discussion is moote. Learn the rules. Play by the rules. Stop whining.